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|road = B800 Ferry Muir Road, South Queensferry{{newline}}(also accessible to traffic on the A904, [[A90]] and [[M90]])
|road = B800 Ferry Muir Road, South Queensferry{{newline}}(also accessible to traffic on the A904, [[A90]] and [[M90]])
|postcode = EH30 9QZ
|postcode = EH30 9QZ
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|stype = Series of sites arranged around a junction.
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|briefroad = B800 at Ferrymuir
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They don't come much stranger than Ferrymuir. It was once positioned on the main A8000, but successive changes to the road layout mean its now over a mile from the nearest main road, and is referred to merely as "[[Forthview|alternative services]]".
They don't come much stranger than Ferrymuir. It was once positioned on the main A8000, but successive changes to the road layout mean it's now over a mile from the nearest main road and is referred to merely as "[[Forthview|alternative services]]".


==Facilities==
==Facilities==
{{facilities| Restaurants | {{Burger King|drivethru=yes|s}}, {{website|Dakota Bar & Grill|https://www.dakotahotels.co.uk/edinburgh/grill}}, Tesco Café |primary }}
{{facilities| Catering | {{Burger King|drivethru=yes|s}}, Dakota Bar & Grill, Tesco Café |primary }}
{{facilities| Shops | Tesco |primary }}
{{facilities| Shops | Tesco |primary }}
{{facilities| Amenities | {{Children's Play Area|indoor}}, Free Cash Machine |primary }}
{{facilities| Amenities | Dakota Hotels, {{Indoor Play Area|warning=at Burger King}}, Free Cash Machine |primary }}
{{facilities| Hotel | {{website|Dakota Hotels|https://www.dakotahotels.co.uk/edinburgh/}} |primary }}
{{facilities| Outdoor Space | Retail park with very little grass space, but public footpath connections |primary }}
{{charging points| Pod Point 7kW Type 2 |primary }}
{{facilities| Charging Points | Pod Point 7kW Type 2 |primary }}
{{facilities| Forecourt | Tesco, Shop, AdBlue Containers, Car Wash |primary }}
{{facilities| Forecourt | {{Tesco}}, Shop, {{Costa Express}}, Car Wash |primary }}


==Parking Prices==
==Parking Prices==
Short stay customer parking is provided, subject to restrictions.
Short stay customer parking is provided at all facilities, subject to restrictions.


This information is provided to us by third parties. You should always check with staff on site.
{{Parking Disclaimer}}


==Contact Details==
==Contact Details==
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West Lothian{{newline}}
West Lothian{{newline}}
EH30 9QZ
EH30 9QZ
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* [https://www.burgerking.co.uk/store-locator/store/restaurant_7434 Ferrymuir drive-thru restaurant operated by Burger King]
* [https://locations.burgerking.co.uk/south-queensferry/ferrymuir-retail-park Official Burger King website]
* [https://www.dakotahotels.co.uk/edinburgh/ Dakota Bar & Grill and Ferrymuir hotel operated by Dakota Hotels]
* [https://dakotahotels.co.uk/edinburgh/ Official Dakota Hotels website]
* [https://www.tesco.com/store-locator/south-queensferry/5-ferrymuir?bid=3214 Ferrymuir café, shop and forecourt operated by Tesco]
* [https://www.tesco.com/store-locator/south-queensferry/5-ferrymuir Official Tesco website]
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==Trivia and History==
==Trivia and History==
[[File:Shell FRB 2020.jpg|250px|thumb|right|alt=Shell forecourt.|The Shell garage at Forth Road Bridge services.]]
[[File:Shell FRB 2020.jpg|250px|thumb|right|alt=A Shell forecourt, seen from across a road and surrounded by grass banks.|The Shell garage at Forth Road Bridge services.]]
Ferrymuir services was built on the A8000 Ferry Muir Road, which at the time was the main road to Edinburgh. It was positioned close to Echline Junction, above the main A90, with the junction offering directions to both Ferrymuir services and [[Forthview]].
Ferrymuir services was built on the A8000 Ferry Muir Road, which at the time was the main road to Edinburgh. It was positioned close to Echline Junction, above the main A90, with the junction offering directions to both Ferrymuir services and [[Forthview|Forthview services]].


The A8000 was replaced in 2006, and in 2017 the A90 Forth Road Bridge was restricted to buses, taxis and motorcycles only after the completion of the M90 Queensferry Crossing. The old road, now the A9000, still has at least some signs referring to "services", it's just that general traffic rarely has the opportunity to see them.
The A8000 was replaced in 2006, and in 2017 the A90 Forth Road Bridge was restricted to buses, taxis and motorcycles only after the completion of the M90 Queensferry Crossing. The old road, now the A9000, still has at least some signs referring to "services", it's just that general traffic rarely has the opportunity to see them.
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===Forth Road Bridge services===
===Forth Road Bridge services===
The Forth Road Bridge opened in 1964, with a large toll booth at South Queensferry. In about 1968 the Forth Bridges Motel was built next to this. This was a large, three-storey, block-shaped building with an excellent view across the Forth Estuary from both the hotel and the car park.
The Forth Road Bridge opened in 1964, with a large toll booth at South Queensferry. At the junction of the service road called Ferrmuir Gate and the new Echline Junction was a new garage. That garage became a [[Shell]] forecourt and it became known as '''Forth Road Bridge services'''.


The Forth Bridges Motel and its large parking area were at one end of a street called Ferrymuir Gait. At the other end, a garage was built around the same time as the hotel, close to the junction with what later became the A8000 Ferry Muir Road. The garage became a [[Shell]] forecourt and the area became known as '''Forth Road Bridge services'''.
Forth Road Bridge services was signposted from the A8000 Ferry Muir Road with a number of direction signs calling it "Services".


It was signposted from the A8000 with a number of signs incorrectly calling it a "Services". Ordnance Survey mapping marked the site with a 'services' symbol where the hotel was.
Further down Ferrymuir Gait, and overlooking the estuary and the bridge, the Forth Bridges Motel opened in 1968. This was a large, three-storey, block-shaped building with an excellent view across the Forth Estuary from both the hotel and the car park. This distinctive building was widely regarded as being part of the 'service area' at the other end of the road, and Ordnance Survey mapping showed 'services' symbol where the hotel was.


===Ferrymuir Planning===
===Ferrymuir Planning===
Outline planning permission was granted in 1999 for a mixed-use development on the south side of the A8000 Ferry Muir Road. At the time, this was the main road to the M9 and Newbridge, so there was a signifiant amount of cross-country traffic, although the development was still primarily aimed at locals.
[[File:FandBs Ferrymuir 2019.jpg|250px|thumb|right|alt=A Frankie & Benny's restaurant.|The Frankie & Benny's restaurant, pictured in 2019.]]
Outline planning permission was granted in 1999 for a mixed-use development on the south side of the A8000 Ferry Muir Road. At the time this road carried a signifiant amount of cross-country traffic, although this was still more of a retail development that was still primarily aimed at locals.


A combined plan from FR Evans Leeds Ltd and Tesco in 2000 saw a Tesco supermarket and filling station built along with a [[Burger King Drive Thru]] restaurant and Frankie & Benny's, all of which opened in 2001. This offer became advertised as 'Ferrymuir services', which piggy-backed on the signage already directing traffic down Ferry Muir Road for the older Forth Road Bridge services.
A combined plan from FR Evans Leeds Ltd and Tesco in 2000 saw a Tesco supermarket and filling station built along with a [[Burger King Drive Thru]] restaurant and Frankie & Benny's, all of which opened in 2001. This offer became advertised as 'Ferrymuir services', which piggy-backed on the signage already directing traffic down Ferry Muir Road for the older Forth Road Bridge services.
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==Alternatives==
==Alternatives==
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{{Succession|1|M90/A90| ''none on A90''{{newline}}[[Heart of Scotland|Heart of Scotland (Harthill)]] (M8 west, 22 miles){{newline}}[[Dreghorn]] (A720, 15 miles) |
{{Succession|1|M90 & A90| [[Heart of Scotland|Heart of Scotland (Harthill)]] (M8 west, 22 miles){{newline}}[[Dreghorn]] (A720, 15 miles) |
[[Kinross]] (18 miles) }}
[[Kinross]] (18 miles) }}
{{Succession|1|B800| ''none on B800''{{newline}}[[Forthview]] (½ miles) |
{{Succession|1|B800| [[Forthview]] (½ miles) |
''none'' }}
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Latest revision as of 10:40, 2 October 2024

Ferrymuir alternative
Location:

B800 Ferry Muir Road, South Queensferry
(also accessible to traffic on the A904, A90 and M90)

(Limited road signage.)

Postcode:

EH30 9QZ

map and directions

Access/Layout:

Series of sites arranged around a junction.


They don't come much stranger than Ferrymuir. It was once positioned on the main A8000, but successive changes to the road layout mean it's now over a mile from the nearest main road and is referred to merely as "alternative services".

Facilities

Catering: Burger King Drive Thru, Dakota Bar & Grill, Tesco Café Shops: Tesco Amenities: Dakota Hotels, Children's Play Area (at Burger King), Free Cash Machine Outdoor Space: Retail park with very little grass space, but public footpath connections Charging Points: Pod Point 7kW Type 2 Forecourt: Tesco, Shop, Costa Express, Car Wash

Parking Prices

Short stay customer parking is provided at all facilities, subject to restrictions.

This information is provided to us by third parties. You should always check with staff on site.

Contact Details

🏢 Address:
Ferrymuir
West Lothian
EH30 9QZ


Trivia and History

A Shell forecourt, seen from across a road and surrounded by grass banks.
The Shell garage at Forth Road Bridge services.

Ferrymuir services was built on the A8000 Ferry Muir Road, which at the time was the main road to Edinburgh. It was positioned close to Echline Junction, above the main A90, with the junction offering directions to both Ferrymuir services and Forthview services.

The A8000 was replaced in 2006, and in 2017 the A90 Forth Road Bridge was restricted to buses, taxis and motorcycles only after the completion of the M90 Queensferry Crossing. The old road, now the A9000, still has at least some signs referring to "services", it's just that general traffic rarely has the opportunity to see them.

As a result, Ferrymuir no longer gets the delight of being positioned near a main road. The new Queensferry Junction on the A90 has "services" signs pointing to Forthview on the A904, and only when you get there, does it say that "alternative services" are available at the Ferrymuir site.

Forth Road Bridge services

The Forth Road Bridge opened in 1964, with a large toll booth at South Queensferry. At the junction of the service road called Ferrmuir Gate and the new Echline Junction was a new garage. That garage became a Shell forecourt and it became known as Forth Road Bridge services.

Forth Road Bridge services was signposted from the A8000 Ferry Muir Road with a number of direction signs calling it "Services".

Further down Ferrymuir Gait, and overlooking the estuary and the bridge, the Forth Bridges Motel opened in 1968. This was a large, three-storey, block-shaped building with an excellent view across the Forth Estuary from both the hotel and the car park. This distinctive building was widely regarded as being part of the 'service area' at the other end of the road, and Ordnance Survey mapping showed 'services' symbol where the hotel was.

Ferrymuir Planning

A Frankie & Benny's restaurant.
The Frankie & Benny's restaurant, pictured in 2019.

Outline planning permission was granted in 1999 for a mixed-use development on the south side of the A8000 Ferry Muir Road. At the time this road carried a signifiant amount of cross-country traffic, although this was still more of a retail development that was still primarily aimed at locals.

A combined plan from FR Evans Leeds Ltd and Tesco in 2000 saw a Tesco supermarket and filling station built along with a Burger King Drive Thru restaurant and Frankie & Benny's, all of which opened in 2001. This offer became advertised as 'Ferrymuir services', which piggy-backed on the signage already directing traffic down Ferry Muir Road for the older Forth Road Bridge services.

The Tesco supermarket has since received several extensions, and the filling station gained a car wash in 2007. The car park also gained a Pod Point electric vehicle charging point in 2020. A Dakota Hotel and Bar was also added in 2004.

Losing The Original Site

The Forth Bridges Motel became the South Queensferry Hotel in the 1990s, and gained a café on the ground floor which was aimed at parking traffic. The hotel became tired and closed in 1999, being demolished shortly afterwards.

A brief refurbishment of the Shell forecourt in August 2016 also saw the official signs removed and not replaced. One reason for this is that it benefits from the signs pointing to the surrounding services anyway. A large car and lorry park are still provided at the end of Ferrymuir Gait, providing access to the Forth Bridges viewpoint, but this is no longer considered a formal service area.

Since the demolition of the hotel, there have been several plans to utilise the land for housing developments, with the latest from Ambassador Homes currently ongoing. The area itself is now branded 'The Forth Bridges', appealing to tourists.

Alternatives

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Heart of Scotland (Harthill) (M8 west, 22 miles)
Dreghorn (A720, 15 miles)
Services on the M90 & A90Kinross (18 miles)
Forthview (½ miles)Services on the B800none